2022/06/17/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

[05:54] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[05:56] <didrocks> good morning
[05:58] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN and didrocks 
[06:00] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, salut didrocks 
[06:03] <didrocks> hey duflu, oSoMoN 
[06:20] <bittin> morning
[06:24] <didrocks> hey bittin 
[06:24] <duflu> Hi bittin 
[06:29] <oSoMoN> good morning bittin 
[06:47] <jibel> Hi all
[06:48] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[07:04] <duflu> Hi jibel 
[07:04] <tsimonq2> Good morning everyone
[07:04] <tsimonq2> I'm waiting on a git push for this now: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/22.10.3
[07:05] <tsimonq2> (tl;dr there's no need to run the ubiquity autopkgtest every time lubuntu-default-settings is uploaded, we haven't even used ubiquity for quite a few cycles now)
[07:19] <tsimonq2> Going to let it fully push here, I can't keep my eyes open unfortunately but you should be able to just grab the commit: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity - otherwise I'll create an MR later
[07:20] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[07:21] <didrocks> salut seb128, ça va ?
[07:21] <didrocks> hey tsimonq2 
[07:21] <tsimonq2> o/ didrocks
[07:22] <seb128> lut didrocks, oui et toi?
[07:24] <duflu> Morning tsimonq2 and seb128 
[07:25] <didrocks> ça va :)
[07:38] <oSoMoN> salut jibel, seb128 
[07:38] <oSoMoN> good morning tsimonq2 
[07:42] <duflu> Morning tsimonq2 and seb128
[07:42] <duflu> ?
[07:42] <duflu> Scrollback fail
[07:47] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, hey duflu, how are you?
[07:47] <oSoMoN> seb128, I'm alright, thanks
[07:47] <duflu> seb128, I'm good but the day is hit-and-miss. Technology is not working. How are you?
[07:49] <seb128> duflu, I'm alright, glad to have a quiet work day ahead (some meetings but tricky to avoid those nowadays)
[07:55] <duflu> And then gitlab crashes too
[07:59] <seb128> :-(
[11:51] <ItzSwirlz> good morning
[11:51] <ItzSwirlz> 8th grade graduation day 'barbeque' has turned into we are stuck outside while everyone signs yearbooks, plays volleyball and whatever, basically a field day and we kind of do whatever we want
[11:52] <ItzSwirlz> which for adolescents = recipe for disaster (and last night we had a party and my friend had his glasses shoved in his ear)
[11:52] <ItzSwirlz> So uh... thoughts and prayers would be well appreciated :P
[11:53] <ItzSwirlz> I'm not sure if you guys saw but I have been trying to work on a gthumb CVE; and just saying that gthumb has a *lot* of commits that can be made for SRU (especially in focal) so that should be looked into
[11:59] <jbicha> ItzSwirlz: gthumb is in universe so it's community maintained. But it's shipped by Ubuntu Budgie so you could work with them on SRUs
[11:59] <jbicha> ItzSwirlz: do you have year-round school or are they just kinda late this year?
[12:00] <jbicha> congrats and happy Friday y'all
[13:04] <lissyx> seb128, btw what is the status of rtw89?
[13:05] <lissyx> asking because I never got an answer on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1943817/comments/23
[13:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1945967 in linux-oem-5.14 (Ubuntu Impish) "rtw89 kernel module for Realtek 8852 wifi is missing" [Undecided, Confirmed] [duplicate: 1943817]
[13:06] <lissyx> and it's super unclear to me what exactly is in the current 5.15 kernel, is it still the default submitted or is that updated from github.com's rtw89
[13:07] <lissyx> (I have had since to replace the card by an intel ac9260 because it seems the thinkpad's uefi has too much bugs yet and it was making wifi mostly unusable, but I still have the card on my desk)
[13:33] <lissyx> seb128, oSoMoN, what are your plans wrt XWayland on Firefox package?
[13:36] <oSoMoN> lissyx, I'd personnally like to switch the stable snap to Wayland by default, I think a lot of our users expect that, and I'm personally affected by https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1766849 which I workaround by running the stable snap with MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1
[13:36] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 1766849 in Core "Firefox snap crashed with X Window System error 'BadValue'" [--, New]
[13:37] <oSoMoN> but the message we've gotten from Mozilla so far is that firefox for Wayland is not mature enough yet
[13:37] <lissyx> oSoMoN, I'd like to know if it's useful to fix https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1766862#c7
[13:37] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 1766862 in Core "Blurry font rendering with fractional scaling on Ubuntu 22.04 xwayland builds" [--, New]
[13:38] <oSoMoN> that really depends on when we'd turn on wayland by default, indeed
[13:38] <oSoMoN> but I'm afraid it's not my call to make
[13:39] <oSoMoN> lissyx, btw I'm going through my bug backlog now, sorry for the delay…
[13:39] <lissyx> oSoMoN, I have the same issue on HexChat BTW
[13:39] <lissyx> just tested on my laptop, not VM
[13:39] <lissyx> fractional scaling, 125%, xwayland
[14:16] <lissyx> oSoMoN, are you sure for the gtk4 fix?
[14:16] <lissyx> it's marked as fix release on may 25
[14:16] <lissyx> I clearly repro with an uptodate system
[14:17] <seb128> lissyx, which one? non selectable folder?
[14:17] <lissyx> no the one with increasing size
[14:17] <oSoMoN> lissyx, I didn't test, just saying that the fix for the upstream gtk4 bug that was linked to the bug report made its way to Ubuntu
[14:18] <oSoMoN> so if it's still reproducible, maybe that upstream fix wasn't the right one, or not enough on its own
[14:19] <seb128> lissyx, which version of libgtk-4-1 do you have installed?
[14:20] <lissyx> ok looks like it is indeed fixed
[14:20] <lissyx> I got tricked because of it and my open dialog was maxxed
[14:22] <lissyx> seb128, oSoMoN it still affects stable though
[14:22] <oSoMoN> was there a fix needed on the firefox side, too?
[14:23] <diddledani> @jibel thanks for your time 💜 One more interview to go!!!
[14:24] <lissyx> I have no idea ...
[14:25] <lissyx> oSoMoN, stable + MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1, no issue
[14:26] <oSoMoN> lissyx, right, because the fix only affects x11 clients, and stable defaults to xwayland. So if it's still reproducible in that config, that means that the gtk fix wasn't enough, I guess
[14:27] <lissyx> oSoMoN, how do you repro https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1664887#c10 ?
[14:27] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 1664887 in Core "Firefox Snap unable to save pages as HTML file" [--, Unconfirmed]
[14:27] <lissyx> oSoMoN, asking because I discovered https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1445211 and well they're similar
[14:27] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 1445211 in Core "Download (save page as...) with some ad-blocker fails (because some subresources are blocked) and succeeds when retried" [Normal, New]
[14:28] <lissyx> and also because I wodner how much it could be a dupe with https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1774556
[14:28] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 1774556 in Core "Firefox fails to save a page and its contents to remote gvfs mount point when using SNAP version" [--, Unconfirmed]
[14:29] <oSoMoN> lissyx, just install the firefox snap in an Ubuntu 20.04 VM, browse to any reasonably complex webpage (e.g. the bug report itself), right-click and choose "save as"
[14:30] <lissyx> no ublock or anything?
[14:32] <oSoMoN> nope
[14:33] <lissyx> oSoMoN, should we keep it open? backport doable?
[14:33] <lissyx> oSoMoN, "save as" you select "only html" or "full web page" ?
[14:35] <oSoMoN> full web page
[14:36] <oSoMoN> seb128, kenvandine: there were some discussion of backporting a recent version of xdg-desktop-portal to focal, did we ever reach a consensus?
[14:38] <lissyx> oSoMoN, can you try "only html" ?
[14:38] <oSoMoN> let me test that
[14:44] <oSoMoN> lissyx, saving as only HTML works
[14:44] <lissyx> I'm really wondering if you are just hitting the same issue as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1774556
[14:44] <seb128> oSoMoN, not really, I think if we want to go this way we need to make a solid testplan and talk about getting an exception granted but that's going to take some work and time
[14:44] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 1774556 in Core "Firefox fails to save a page and its contents to remote gvfs mount point when using SNAP version" [--, Unconfirmed]
[14:44] <oSoMoN> could it be related to calling SaveFile vs SaveFiles, which I saw mentioned in another bug?
[14:45] <lissyx> maybe
[14:45] <lissyx> if one day I find where this happens ...
[16:48] <lissyx> seb128, wondering if sccache could speedup the builds
[16:59]  * tsimonq2 o/
[17:00] <tsimonq2> Will get an MR submitted before too long
[17:02] <tsimonq2> https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/424979
[17:04] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/22.10.3
[17:05] <tsimonq2> oops last link was for l-devel
[18:54] <kenvandine> oSoMoNseb128  we will at some point, but i first let's be sure the native messaging work is solid.  Then we'll look to doing the SRU paperwork/process.
[18:54] <kenvandine> and as seb128 said, we need a solid testplan for supported series