| [02:41] <guiverc> is the pipewire change on our ISOs yet (for live testing..) ; if anyone knows off the top of their head | |
| [02:42] <guiverc> never mind; you can ignore my last.. (thought I had issue with sound) | |
| [02:42] <arraybolt3[m]> I think it is, at least that's what earlier testing suggested. | |
| [02:42] <arraybolt3[m]> (Currently working on a personal project for Christmas - trying to build a custom Linux distro from scratch :P) | |
| [02:42] <guiverc> :) | |
| [02:42] <arraybolt3[m]> (I got to the point of a working kernel and Busybox binary that can be launched in QEMU, so woot! I also want to finish up the XScreenSaver config file soon, possibly tonight.) | |
| [03:21] <guiverc> i wonder if i'm having pipewire sound issues... I'm only having one of chromium (snap) & hexchat playing sound... if one is playing; the other app isn't making sound... still exploring (slowly) | |
| [03:21] <arraybolt3> I can test real quick, one moment... | |
| [03:22] <arraybolt3> guiverc: OK, try and send me a ping. | |
| [03:22] <guiverc> arraybolt3, i have a vid playing in chromium, hexchat is currently deadly silent with no audio (I noted a ubuntu-news ping only because of flashing on panel earlier today, not audio) | |
| [03:23] <arraybolt3> For me, I can play sounds in multiple apps at the same time without problems (Element can ping at me while music is playing, I can also paplay a sound file and it plays at the same time). | |
| [03:23] <arraybolt3> Lemme try a Snap (Firefox) and see what happens. | |
| [03:23] <guiverc> it's not all apps; eg. I have vid play (chromium) & music apps too... hexchat is GTK2 & thus maybe different | |
| [03:23] * guiverc clementine is my defualt music player | |
| [03:24] <guiverc> arraybolt3, you're working on other stuff; I'd not worry about this yet.. I'd verify it on another box, plus reboot this box & re-test before I got to point of wanting to file a bug report... (ie. considered it an issue) | |
| [03:24] <arraybolt3> I can play audio in Chrome and Firefox at the same time, too. | |
| [03:25] <arraybolt3> guiverc: I'm right here, I can help test! Besides I'm taking a break from my project and gearing up for XScreenSaver anyway, so this isn't an interruption. | |
| [03:25] * arraybolt3 sudo apt install hexchat | |
| [03:26] <arraybolt3> arrayboltHCTest: test | |
| [03:26] <arraybolt3> arrayboltHCTest: test | |
| [03:26] <arraybolt3> arrayboltHCTest: test | |
| [03:28] <guiverc> on pausing chromuium (youtube vid) & clementine... after a while here on hexchat makes noise again, but clicking play on either clementine or chromium/youtube-vid gets no sound.. | |
| [03:28] <arraybolt3> Interesting. I don't get audio in HexChat either if I have an audio file in Firefox playing *or paused*. | |
| [03:28] <arraybolt3> But if the file isn't playing at all, it works. | |
| [03:29] <arraybolt3> Er... hmm, now it's not working there either, what on earth... | |
| [03:29] <guiverc> it hopefully only relates to GTK2 apps (there are very few of them) but it's my IRC client still | |
| [03:30] <guiverc> i think you have to let it 'settle' or stay quiet a little before you can switch to the other (before the sound is given up in the queue or something maybe) | |
| [03:30] <arraybolt3> Once I close Firefox entirely, then it starts playing audio again for me. | |
| [03:32] <guiverc> I've not yet closed any apps; but have found just waiting will fix it (haven't timed to see how long it takes; maybe 15 secs) | |
| [03:32] <arraybolt3> Yeah, it's definitely behaving strangely. I didn't see anything in journalctl that looked interesting. | |
| [03:33] <guiverc> me neither, I do get an error if i start clementine using media key on keyboard (after awhile) WHEN hexchat is playing sound & it cannot play; | |
| [03:34] <arraybolt3> Possibly related (unsure though): https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues/1908 | |
| [03:34] -ubot93:#lubuntu-devel- Issue 1908 in pipewire/pipewire "High latency for Canberra notification sounds, poor handling of unset and high latencies" [Closed] | |
| [03:34] <guiverc> (sorry I can't provide error; window keeps closing; but message unhelpful for clues; just sign of problem starting audio) | |
| [05:25] <arraybolt3> guiverc: I'm also noticing that Thunderbird is no longer making notification sounds when I have music running in the background. | |
| [05:25] <arraybolt3> So this is definitely not confined to your system, and not confined even to HexChat. It might have something to do with GTK, but I dunno. This seems pretty bad, though. | |
| [05:26] <guiverc> Thunderbird shows to me as GTK3 (https://packages.ubuntu.com/lunar/thunderbird) so not restricted to GTK2 thus will impact far higher % of users | |
| [05:27] <arraybolt3> I suppose the next step is to try Ubuntu Desktop and see if there's problems there. | |
| [05:27] * arraybolt3 is currently fighting with liblxqt - I'm almost done updating that for Debian | |
| [05:27] <guiverc> do you want to write up something on discourse; I can too (getting late for you i bet)... Yep I'd go ubuntu-desktop next as best for bug report in my opinion (get Ubuntu devs on issue & at least tracking) | |
| [05:28] <arraybolt3> Yeah, sure. And, nah, not really that late for me. | |
| [05:28] <arraybolt3> (Remember I | |
| [05:28] <arraybolt3> I'm the weird night owl guy.) | |
| [05:28] <guiverc> I'm happy to add issue to discourse; suggesting you as you maybe more detailed with specifics than me... | |
| [05:29] * guiverc is going for sony vaoi thingy, see what OS/release is on that.. | |
| [05:30] <arraybolt3> guiverc: Alright, added a comment on Discourse. | |
| [05:32] <guiverc> i've got lubuntu lunar on sony; but have started zsync of ubuntu-desktop; can do qa-test install then test... | |
| [05:33] <arraybolt3> Sounds good. I'll start a zsync pretty soon too. | |
| [05:34] <arraybolt3> Last of the liblxqt builds are now running, should be able to push to Salsa soon. | |
| [05:36] <guiverc> :) | |
| [08:07] <lubot> [matrix] <arraybolt3> (Still here, just on the other homeserver.) | |
| [08:17] * guiverc still hasn't had ubuntu-desktop written to thumb-drive.. bandwidth issues due to backups in progress.. plus about to walk dog now anyway. | |
| [08:52] <arraybolt3> guiverc: I think I figured out the PipeWire problem. Reboot your computer, that may fix it. | |
| [08:52] <arraybolt3> I just tested Ubuntu Desktop, it doesn't have the problem... but it also has a newer version of PipeWire than the one currently running on my system, and I remember a PipeWire update came through earlier today I think. | |
| [08:52] <arraybolt3> I'm going to reboot and be right back to report the results. | |
| [08:57] <arraybolt3> Nevermind, didn't fix it. | |
| [08:57] <arraybolt3> But, it is a problem with Lubuntu, not with PipeWire in general, so that's good. | |
| [11:56] <guiverc> thanks arraybolt3 ... I've only got to testing it now (haven't re-created it with Ubuntu Desktop either) | |
| [16:25] <arraybolt3> Finally managed to get in an MR for liblxqt! | |