[12:39] edd: rad [12:39] edd: does that build and work for you? if so, could you please nmu it with a note that i asked? [12:39] i so don't have the bandwidth to pull mono [12:40] edd: oh, and if you could patch the Makefile.am as well as the Makefile.in, that'd rock. cheers. [12:40] edd: (and priority=high to hit sarge) === bdale [~bdale@204.131.210.200] has joined #ubuntu === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-167-111-186.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === HcE_ [~hc@66.80-202-212.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu === Riff [~davyd@cook.theducks.org] has joined #ubuntu === npmccallum_ [~npmccallu@24-48-54-75.ironoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === cef_work [~cef@fw-01.amc.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === npmccallum__ [~npmccallu@24-48-54-75.ironoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === Gman [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu === bdale [~bdale@pool0191.cvx6-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net] has joined #ubuntu === wartylog [~warthylog@port1845.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu === Topic for #ubuntu: SSDS | http://wiki.no-name-yet.com/ un: sounders, pw: oink | Sounder CD 7 released === Topic (#ubuntu): set by Kamion at Tue Aug 24 16:57:26 2004 === ik5pvx [~Bus_Error@paperino.noc.seabone.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:18] quick question: is it normal that recovery mode asks no password at all, or did I f**k up something ? [08:46] iirc it's correct === ploum [~ploum@93-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu === Riff [~davyd@cook.theducks.org] has joined #ubuntu === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-111-1-1-210.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [10:41] hello [10:43] hey seb [10:45] hello edd === lucas_ [~lucas@cab-192023.calixo.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:16] hi [11:20] hey lucas_ [11:20] hi seb128 :) [11:21] so, you've tried the distro ? :) [11:21] yes, but I don't have much to say yet, since I ran into a problem with the screen going blank when gdm starts [11:22] utch [11:23] which video card ? [11:23] nforce 2 [11:23] with the nv driver [11:23] I used my debian's XF86Config-4 [11:23] nothing in XFree's logs [11:24] the warty one was not correct ? [11:24] I wasn't sure, and I wanted to make sure it wasn't a config problem [11:25] I'll try again later with other drivers [11:25] but on the first boot with the warty config you got a blank screen ? [11:25] yes [11:25] fabbione: already heard about such problem ? [11:25] the screen is all black [11:25] (and the monitor doesnt go into power-saving mode) [11:26] I then booted in single user mode and disabled gdm [11:27] lucas_: please try to start X without gdm [11:27] and check the log file [11:27] tried that, same results [11:27] let's isolate one problem at a time [11:27] there's nothing relevant in X's log [11:27] did X in debian work with the same config? [11:28] yes === fabbione scratches his head [11:28] which version of X are you using? [11:28] in debian ? [11:28] did you upgrade from the net after cd install? [11:28] in debian, the unstable one [11:29] in ubuntu the latest (I upgraded) [11:29] lucas_: ok that can explain. [11:29] your config is borked [11:29] the last X in ubuntu has some issues [11:29] be sure to use a working config [11:30] can you define "working config" ? :) [11:30] lucas_: the one you were using before? [11:31] I'm using the one I'm using with debian [11:31] are you 100% sure? again there is a problem in X upgrade process in ubuntu that was mangling config file... [11:32] I just checked. [11:32] that btw i am trying to fix now.. [11:33] oh, btw, am I supposed to see a bootsplash ? because I don't [11:33] no you are not [11:33] ok [11:33] not to start X atleast [11:33] no I mean during boot [11:33] (nothing to do with the other problem) [11:35] which chipset you have? [11:35] nv? [11:35] nvidia nforce [11:35] nv driver yes [11:36] (bootsplash works with vesa in my debian install) [11:37] * Grab from XFree86 CVS (2003-07-16) more updates to the nv driver. Fixes [11:37] hmmmmm [11:37] lucas_: how would you feel to do a test for us and debian in one shot? [11:37] i will help you.. but i need your help as well [11:37] no problem [11:38] but my X problem is ubuntu-specific [11:38] it works in debian with the nv drivr [11:38] and it has worked for ages [11:38] lucas_: it is now.. it might be in debian too. that's why i need your help to test [11:38] ok === fabbione thinks the easiest way to test [11:39] do you have debian on that machine too or only ubuntu? [11:39] no, both [11:39] ok perfect [11:39] switch to debian, apt-get source xfree86 && apt-get build-dep xfree86 [11:40] I'm on debian already [11:40] http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/HACKING.txt === Md [md@md.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu [11:40] down to the bottom there is a section "Building the package" [11:41] i need you to do that procedure [11:41] and try the packages from svn trunk [11:41] they contain the same nv drivers we have here [11:41] test the packages with the known working config [11:42] it will take you a while... [11:42] approx 5GB of space and probably 1 hour or so to build X [11:42] (depends how fast is your machine [11:42] eh, why don't I just get the .deb from ubuntu and install them on debian ? [11:42] lucas_: no. don't do that [11:43] you will just install broken packages on a known working system [11:43] and i am pretty sure the problem is related to nv driver update [11:43] ok [11:43] you can try to borrow only the driver from ubuntu [11:44] ok, I'm doing that now [11:44] but i much rather prefer if you can test the whole [11:44] yup I understand [11:46] bbiaf === lucas_ [~lucas@cab-192023.calixo.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:55] re [11:57] fabbione: so, with the nv_drv.o from ubuntu, X didn't start in Debian [11:57] and with the nv_drv.o from Debian, X did work in ubuntu [11:57] lucas_: goody.. at least we know where the problem is [11:57] lucas_: i need you to do a reportbug in debian [11:58] because it will affect the new Xfree86 upload [11:58] do the following: [11:58] ok. what must I say ? :) [11:58] (just a sec.. i was elaburating on it :)) [11:59] reportbug xserver-xfree86 [11:59] subject: nv driver from trunk doesn't work [11:59] subject: nv driver from svn trunk doesn't work properly [12:00] and then add all the information you want [12:00] and stuff like: [12:00] lspci -n [12:00] video card information [12:00] (as many as you can) [12:00] but do it from debian [12:00] yup ok [12:00] once you get an answer from the BTS [12:00] please let me know the bug number [12:00] I'll do that later (in an hour or so) [12:00] ok [12:00] so that we can track in ubuntu too [12:01] thanks [12:01] hum the thing is, I didn't really tested the svn trunk version [12:01] lucas_: well you tested the svn trunk version of the driver [12:02] ok [12:13] i did check [12:13] the updates only touches the nv driver and nothing more [12:13] so you can safely use newer drivers with the old packages === lucas_ [~lucas@cab-192023.calixo.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:06] re [02:07] wb === Riff [~davyd@cook.theducks.org] has joined #ubuntu === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-167-111-186.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:20] when I rebooted on Debian, my root filesystem (which I mounted while on Ubuntu) was corrupted. Is it just bad luck, or are there been similar reports ? [02:20] I'm using reiserfs [02:20] really corrupted or just flagged dirty? [02:21] really corrupted [02:21] corruption while using reiserfs isn't unheard of [02:22] so just bad luck ;) [02:22] lucas_: I don't think that's related to warty, there is no reason [02:22] yes, probably [02:22] ok === Keybuk [scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-111-1-1-210.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] I currently see no bootsplash while booting warty. Is it normal ? [04:02] yes [04:02] it's expected, yes [04:02] ok [04:02] lucas_: sadly it looks like that's going to be a hoary feature instead [04:03] 6-monthly release process bites when things aren't ready for feature-freeze [04:03] why so ?\ [04:03] ah [04:04] still, it's a short enough amount of time to wait for things to get better [04:04] and there are those of us willing to switch to hoary before its release to help out :) [04:05] aye, Hoary Array#1 is out only a month after Warty iirc. [04:05] actually, it's a week after Warty release [04:05] wow === Hrdwr_BoB [hrdwrbob@220-253-14-97.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:09] Array #1 ? [04:13] array is the collective noun for hedgehogs [04:13] ah. [04:14] while not *strictly* a warty problem (this is on a debian box) anyonre have any idea why gnome-panel might not display the top bar correctly on startup (but displays the bottom bar) but on killing it and having it restart, it works [04:22] could be a stuck panel applet that's not starting properly? or something like that [04:22] don't know, not seen that myself -- seb128 is the guy to bounce that off [04:23] sawfish as window manager ? [04:23] yeah [04:23] sawfish bug [04:23] Keybuk: yeah I tried bouncing the all manually [04:23] oh, heh [04:23] well that's good to know *upgrades sawfish* [04:24] yes, should be fixed in last release [04:24] thanks :) [04:24] see, he knows these things [04:24] sawfish (1:1.3+cvs20040617-6) unstable; urgency=high [04:24] . [04:24] * New patch to fix panel position. This feature has been introduced in [04:24] ah [04:24] :) [04:24] :) [04:25] I'm just copying the crap off this machine so I can turn it into a warty box [04:25] the stupid thing is only copying at 1.6mb/s [04:36] lmorning === HcE_ is now known as HcE [04:36] morning [04:37] hey matt [04:39] hello mdz [04:39] morning mdz [04:40] hi matt === StoneTable [~stone@65.169.94.254] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] mdz: how urgent is #896? [04:55] fabbione: well, non-PIC won't work on amd64 ... === fabbione is kinda busy with X atm... [04:58] if it's urgent someone can do it for me please? [04:59] fabbione: not particularly urgent, but a policy violation [05:00] if it's only a problem on amd64, then perhaps Mithrandir can inherit it === Mithrandir grabs it [05:02] thanks guys === Mithrandir would _really_ like ia32-libs to be promoted to main, so gcc can build. [05:04] impressive [05:04] sounder CD 7 causes this box to reboot when it boots .. not sure why [05:06] sorry, sounder 6 === HcE would like instant knowledge of how to make .deb driver packages for X4.3 and the kernel :) [05:08] HcE: talk to fabbione about X, at least. [05:08] or daniels, but he's working more on X.org packages, iirc [05:09] the lictouch driver should be ok to put into X, but I want to test it here first [05:09] it just takes forever to compile [05:09] HcE: get yourself a real computer. ;) [05:09] Mithrandir: can I send you the bill? :P [05:10] pft. [05:10] HcE: use ccache :-) [05:10] it's mostly my error because I can't do it right the first time [05:11] fabbione: did you see my nagging about the lvm2 segfault? [05:12] Mithrandir: no. it's all day that i am working with X [05:12] i barely read emails [05:12] fabbione: on the other channel. :) [05:12] oh no.. [05:12] sorry [05:12] basically, did you manage to track it down? [05:13] Mithrandir: to a segfault in one ioctl on /dev/disc when /dev is devfs [05:13] fabbione: yes, but it got fixed in Debian [05:13] seemingly. [05:13] that's all i was able to see when using lvm2 inside initrd [05:14] oh [05:14] ok, so you didn't get any further? [05:14] no. [05:15] but not even the submitter knows what has been fixed where and how [05:15] true [05:15] I'll see if I have the time to track it down, then === Mithrandir wanders to fetch some food [05:15] Mithrandir: if you have the setup is ok [05:15] wanders off, even [05:15] otherwise it will have to wait a couple of days [05:16] I am almost done (hopefully!) with X [05:16] woo, cool [05:16] at least now: [05:16] 1) doesn't mangle your config file [05:16] 2) the logic to calculate freq based on resolution is slightly better [05:17] 3) it supports dynamic templates ${choises} for modes [05:17] and a bunch of other fixes [05:17] now i am doing postinst more robust [05:17] before uploading and so on... [05:18] what bootloader does the warty install CD use? [05:19] syslinux [05:19] hrm [05:19] it reboots this duron machine [05:19] but the debian install CDI have works [05:20] SCSI DVD shouldn't make a difference? [05:20] Hrdwr_BoB: isolinux [05:20] the same as Debian CDs use [05:21] are you sure it's crashing that early? [05:21] this deb CD is a bit old though [05:21] and not in the kernel? [05:21] well I see nothing on the screen at all [05:21] hangon I'll try it again [05:22] yeah it doesn't appear that it's getting to the kernel at all [05:23] though it might be a problem loading framebuffer [05:23] or whatever it does [05:24] it has a gf2mx in it [05:24] there [05:24] finally X is being built with the lictouch driver :/ [05:27] well I have to go to bed, [05:27] hmm [05:27] ah, .au :) [05:28] I'll have warty CD 7 by tomorrow, but I'm not sure it'll help, I might try a different video card [05:28] hah yes it's 1:30am === Hrdwr_BoB is now known as SleepBoB === StoneTable [~stone@65.169.94.254] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] argh.. [06:20] what happened to ls --color ? [06:20] echo $TERM? [06:21] linux [06:21] as usual [06:21] i didn't change that [06:21] it's on console [06:22] they are all too dark [06:23] hmm [06:23] I'm getting bad feelings about the lictouch driver to X4.3 :( [06:24] when I go up/down the pointer goes sideways :( [06:33] icky. === doko [doko@dsl-082-083-244-078.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === Kamion [~cjwatson@host81-153-126-219.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] found the error === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-111-1-7-52.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] some usb-mouse config in my XFree conf [06:38] now the monitor dosn't work at all === mvo_ [~egon@suprimo-159.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === ploum [~ploum@93-244.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu === StoneTable [~stone@65.169.94.254] has joined #ubuntu === mdz_ [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-111-1-24-234.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === npmccallum [~npmccallu@24-48-54-75.ironoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:52] mdz: 896 seems ok, the TEXTREL segment is only present on i386 [09:53] mdz: so, technically, it's a policy violation, but we can ignore it, as it's correct on amd64. [09:53] (and i386 doesn't care) [09:53] fascinating [09:53] : tfheen@golem(golem-i386) ~ > objdump -x /usr/lib/libmpeg2.so.0| grep TEXT [09:53] TEXTREL 0x0 [09:53] vs [09:53] : tfheen@golem(golem-amd64) ~ > objdump -x /usr/lib/libmpeg2.so.0| grep TEXT [09:53] : tfheen@golem(golem-amd64) ~ > [09:54] just close the bug with FIXED and a comment? [10:19] NOTWARTY and a comment [10:19] it's still a bug in Debian === justdave [~dave@24.247.63.44.gha.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #ubuntu === justdave is away: school openhouse === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:58] mdz more specifically [11:58] processor : 0 [11:58] vendor_id : AuthenticAMD [11:58] cpu family : 6 [11:58] model : 3 [11:58] model name : AMD Duron(tm) [11:58] stepping : 0 [11:58] cpu MHz : 700.052