[12:00] Kamion: warty has bigger warts than that :-) [12:01] Hi, is there some info somewhere on the wiki about how to build custom distribs based on ubuntu ? [12:01] lucas_: i think thats a goal of hoary [12:01] mdz: oh yeah [12:02] tseng: arg, not before hoary ? I would have liked to build a warty-derivate ... [12:02] lucas_: you can certainly derive from warty if you would like [12:03] there is no step-by-step howto [12:04] mdz: who could give me an overview of how to build a derivate that only adds a dozen of packages ? === Kamion wonders vaguely if such a person exists yet. :-) [12:05] lucas_: it would be very nearly the same process as building a Debian derivative [12:05] if I knew how to build a debian derivate, I wouldn't be there asking :) [12:05] the archives of the debian-custom mailing list may have useful information [12:06] I think there's a "debian-cdd" howto (or some such name) [12:06] pants off dudes [12:06] zi[ [12:06] *p === Kamion squirts a water pistol at jdub [12:07] ok, thanks for the pointer [12:07] ow! morning! cold! [12:07] I think I am learning about this "cold" [12:08] it was only ~16C yesterday [12:08] wuss [12:08] I had to wear sleeves! === mdz gathers firewood frantically [12:09] rock, the dude who ITPed ifolder has passed it over :) === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:14] lo everyone [12:15] jdub: Make ifolder non-sucky [12:15] tberman is helping with that [12:15] hey Mitario [12:15] or use epittance instead [12:16] it performs a different function === jdub will look at it more after someone like alexl gets his mitts on it [12:18] 1 === rastaman [~sgtshatta@24-193-25-90.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:35] i think beagle cvs is broken atm, make in the top dir does nothing. [12:35] so much for packaging === doko [doko@dsl-084-057-024-165.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] Night [01:05] Kamion: which d-i bit creates /sbin/unconfigured.sh? === elmo_ [~james@83.216.141.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] mdz: which d-i bit copies all .deb from the cdrom to the HD ? [01:21] archive-copier [01:21] I thought it was archive-copier, but I read its code [01:21] from the code and apt-cdrom's manpage, it only adds the cdrom entry in /etc/apt/sources.list [01:21] was apt-cdrom hacked to change that ? [01:21] bob2: i see the syntax error in tomboy now [01:21] elmo: I read the apt-cdrom source code and still can't find a place where it copies the .deb to the HD. [01:21] hornbeck: finishing up libdbus-cil pkg now [01:21] hornbeck: care to test on a clean box? [01:24] lucas_: apt-cdrom does not do any copying. archive-copier does [01:25] oh, got it [01:25] I was only reading the "prebaseconfig" script [01:25] postinst makes more sense :) [01:26] tseng: yes I would like to try it [01:26] is it in your repos? [01:26] one moment [01:26] and not on the box you already installed dbus from cvs on [01:26] since we wont easily know if the dep is filled by the package, or something you installed already [01:27] eg, do we need anything more than the dll's [01:27] tseng: I do not think so, I could be wrong though [01:28] its rare but it has been known to happen :) [01:28] hm i guess it needs the .pc also [01:28] oops === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:31] daniels: ping [01:35] mdz: which bit of d-i installs the packages in ubuntu-desktop but not in base after the reboot ? [01:36] lucas_: base-config [01:36] oh ok [01:38] hornbeck: libdbus-cil is in my repo, with all the +cvs dbus stuff [01:39] hornbeck: i took it from thom so im not sure if it is new enough for beagle.. dated 10/7 [01:39] tseng: I will check in alittle while [01:39] I am doing school work right now [01:40] any clue why blam resets to defaults everytime it launches? [01:42] ok, I now have a much clearer view of how d-i works. I'll write a nice howto if I succeed in building an Ubuntu-derivate =) thanks for answering my questions ; good night. [01:52] oh hornbeck [01:52] could you send me that tarball after all, my cvs checkout seems b0rk === T-Bone is now known as T-None [01:53] when you have a chance that is === T-None [varenet@d190.dhcp212-198-139.noos.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Client] [02:02] <__daniel> sleep tight [02:12] yeah tseng [02:13] can I get a mail for you [02:13] brandon@smarterits.com [02:14] on its way [02:17] evolution is crapping out on sending attachments [02:17] will try to send from other account [02:23] tseng: now it is on its way [02:25] hornbeck: er dude [02:25] i meant beagle [02:25] did i say dbus? [02:26] haha, yeah [02:26] ok I will send beagle [02:26] thanks === rastaman [~sgtshatta@24-193-25-90.nyc.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [02:27] tseng: now that one is on its way [02:28] great [02:28] tseng: you should shoot for a gecko-sharp-0.6 also :-) [02:28] perhaps [02:28] nice === srbaker_ [~srbaker@blk-224-143-227.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:39] okay, after a full day of ubuntu on my laptop, i'm even more impressed than before. great work, guys [02:46] thanks [02:53] " [02:53] i've done with install snd_via82xx /bin/true" [02:53] ^ eeeeeek! === nmf [~nmf@adsl-b4-66-44.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:06] jdub/mdz: I think rc2 == release. thoughts? === sgtshatta [~sgtshatta@24-193-25-90.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [~james@203-59-217-232.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:27] kinda neat how when you move around the website you are logged in one page than not another, good way to keep people from being able to do anything [03:33] hmmm === hazmat [~hazmat@c-24-15-10-12.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] hornbeck: you can use https://site-edit.ubuntulinux.org/ until that's fixed [03:53] mdz: thanks [03:55] man that is way to complicated [03:57] anyone know how i can find out when to expect ubuntu cds? i'm planning our LUG meeting, and i want to know which one my "introduction to ubuntu" talk (with cds) will take place [04:00] hornbeck: it's a bug [04:01] lamont: I think we have no choice :-) [04:01] srbaker_: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-October/007832.html === mdz gleefully closes an FTBFS-on-m68k bug [04:20] aw, daniels beat me to it [04:48] mdz: true, I think there are bugs that would be nice to have fixed, but I think they mostly come back to hwdetection diffs and minifo :-( === srbaker_ [~srbaker@blk-224-143-227.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:51] mdz: quick draw, yo === hazmat [~hazmat@c-24-15-10-12.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker_ [~srbaker@blk-224-143-227.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:02] morning guys [05:03] morning papa fabbione [05:03] good morning [05:03] night here :-) [05:06] hey kid [05:08] daniels: we will probably have a kitchen the first week you will be here :-))) [05:08] awesome! [05:08] and hopefully the bigger office during the second one [05:08] your timezone shift is bad, dude [05:08] i know [05:10] it's not like i am having fun waking up at 5 am every day [05:22] ;) [05:30] amu: you are not supposed to be awake either ;) === srbaker_ [~srbaker@blk-224-143-227.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:37] fabbione: correct, i lie straight on a slopematte in the southseas, 2 pretty girls make breakfast for me, wow i dream stilD[D[D[D[Dl === mdz_ [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:53] amu: eheheh === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Client] === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hazmat [~hazmat@c-24-15-10-12.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SuperLag [~colbyirc@CPE-69-76-188-71.kc.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Keybuk [scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:26] morning fabbione, did you get the debhelper things working? === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:mdz] : Ubuntu development -- general discussion and support on #ubuntu | Happy Hoary Trail! | BE THE SIGNAL | Warty release is DONE | Hoary kickoff meeting Monday, 2004-10-25 1600UTC in #ubuntu-meeting === SuperLag [~colbyirc@CPE-69-76-188-71.kc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:41] xmlconfig.c:912: error: `program_invocation_short_name' undeclared (first use in this function) [07:41] and errno.h is included [07:41] what am I missing here? [07:42] #define __USE_GNU ? [07:43] Keybuk: er, _GNU_SOURCE? [07:44] Redhat found a vulnerability in fileutils (ls and mkdir), that could allow a remote attacker to execute arbitrary code with root privileges. [07:44] ^ ouch [07:45] though highly odd *how* you'd do that without making ls or mkdir setuid root [07:46] Received: from 2ens11.uta.edu (2ens11.uta.edu [129.107.2.122] ) by [07:46] menubar.gnome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951303B0D8A for [07:46]

; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 18:00:13 -0400 (EDT) === Keybuk decides that mail is highly suspicious [07:46] Keybuk: also, Red Hat know how to spell their company name [07:46] also the instructions are to untar, build and install a random tar file [07:47] RH ship security updates as RPM [07:47] interestingly, they ship 'fileutils-patch.bin' in that tarfile [07:47] which is an RPM [07:48] ah yes, bit red notice on RH.com [07:48] daniels, Keybuk: thanks... [07:48] i wonder more why it wasn't set automatically [07:49] fabbione: you have to set it to say you're happy that your code is no longer C99/POSIX/blah and you're happy about that [07:49] also, _BSD_SOURCE, _POSIX_SOURCE, and _XOPEN_SOURCE [07:50] the latter two accept numbers as to your level of posix/x/openness [07:53] hmm [07:53] the only lib complaining about it is libgl [07:53] i wonder if others are affected too [07:54] Keybuk: this is dri (black magic wodoo) stuff [07:54] very difficult to say [07:55] ehm [07:55] daniels: what do you think about confining the -D_GNU_SOURCE to libgl ? [07:55] you know how I worked out which flags most modular libs used? [07:55] buildd.d.o [07:56] if you can do per-file cflags in imake, even better [07:56] maybe even just a #define _GNU_SOURCE rather than -D [07:56] daniels: yes i can do that [08:06] daniels: btw.. all these little changes are just because of -DUseInstalled [08:06] a real pain in the butt [08:07] and it needs to be done at Imake level [08:09] but i can still confine it to that specific dir [08:09] there is no need to force it on the entire lib [08:17] fabbione: building mesa/glx and the server separately is a huge pain in the arse [08:17] right now you can't do it and keep dri [08:18] that's why my monolithic tree still contains lib/GL and extras/Mesa [08:18] (also, Xfont is really bizzaro, but that's another story) [08:18] daniels: yes i know they circular build-dep [08:18] i already have the xserver source tree as dependency [08:19] hm [08:19] right now libgl is the worst crap i have seen in terms of Imakefile [08:20] i'm glad you guys can bond over X horrors [08:20] fabbione: isn't it great? [08:20] jdub: sort of like old war stories [08:20] jdub: all this stuff is coming out because we are splitting the tree [08:20] YAY! [08:20] 'and then there was the time I realised half of the XKB code was probably exploitable if someone tried hard enough' [08:20] daniels: yes, but that doesn't scare me too much [08:22] jdub: as i already told Mark, the amount of work is much higher than what i planned in the beginning [08:22] jdub: unfortunatly i realized it later [08:22] but we will do our best [08:24] daniels: ''But I just typed "2*&)$}{;')(*!" at the keyboard..'' [08:26] daniels: so how did you happen upon the Boeing glider story? === vorlon had never heard that the mechanics ran out of gas on the way there, though, that's hilarious. :) [08:27] yeah was reading that, is a good telling of it :o) [08:27] I first heard about it reading some racetrack trivia stuff [08:27] vorlon: chris blizzard linked to it on his blog [08:27] ah. :) [08:28] there's several examples of races being interrupted by planes doing emergency landings (lots of race tracks are old airfields), but that's the only one which was a commerical liner === vorlon had heard about it because his dad is a glider pilot; the story was occasionally brought up as an "and that's why all commercial airline pilots should have to learn to fly gliders", when in reality it's a "and that's why airlines should ground planes that are suffering computer failures" ;) [08:30] although, knowing your pilot can glide the plane in if there's a problem is kinda nice [08:31] depends on the plane really :) [08:32] sure, though they showed that the glide ratio on those things really is lousy, and there aren't all that many airline pilots who do know how to fly gliders. :) [08:32] dude, if it's a 747-400, i still want to know the guy can glide it [08:32] indeed; the natural state for an out-of-fuel jetliner is "crater" [08:34] Silverstone is pretty fantastic for that; it's still an in-use airfield as well as a F1 Grand Prix race track -- on race day a fleet of helicopters arrives and lands in the middle of the track as all the rich kids get around the parking problems [08:35] Keybuk: how was the race yesterday? [08:35] i don't have a TV yet :) [08:35] fabbione: got a bit wet, but no major casualties [08:35] who won? [08:35] Montoya [08:35] argh [08:35] Kimi 2, Barichello 3 [08:35] schummy? [08:36] somewhere a little way back, he toasted his car in the wall during practice so had to take an engine change [08:36] montoya! [08:36] fabbione: you seen the rule changes for 2005 yet? [08:36] Keybuk: nope.. i only read the one you posted here [08:36] about no tyres change during the race [08:37] that is going to be sooooo boring [08:37] front wing height and rear wing size reduced; so will be interesting whether we'll see 1980-era wings-fixed-to-noses again [08:37] i hope there is at least the exception in case of rain/dry weather [08:37] Keybuk: you'd land a plane on alicia silverstone? bastardo! [08:37] no tyre changes during race (except for environmental conditions) [08:37] in fact, same tyres have to last for both Qualy *and* the race [08:37] amen [08:38] we will see more cars out with falt tyres than anything else [08:38] which is interesting that they didn't forbid refuelling as well; because the pit boys won't have much to do now [08:38] engines have to last for two race weekends, not just one === hazmat [~hazmat@c-24-15-10-12.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:39] so if one engine blows up [08:39] 9/10 teams want to eliminate tyre testing entirely, so effectively use standardised tyres for all teams [08:39] you are out for 2 races [08:39] fabbione: no, just have to take a 10-position penalty [08:40] bah that sucks [08:40] 9/10 teams want to reduce testing to just 10 days throughout the entire season [08:40] it's getting to complicate [08:40] Qualy is going to be Saturday afternoon for a first low-fuel run in previous race finishing order [08:40] then on Sunday morning, they'll run again with race fuel in reverse order of previous finishing [08:40] Position will be based on an aggregate of both times [08:41] why don't they just use /dev/urandom? [08:41] it will save them tons of headackes === sivang [~dannyh@80.179.93.130.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:42] heh, I still think they should go back to the *original* Qualy format, but with the addition that you have to run laps in 15 minute windows (to prevent everyone going out with 10 minutes left on the clock) [08:43] morning all [08:43] next year's going to be kinda interesting [08:43] Keybuk: i think they should go back to the original. that's it.. same as it was at Prost and Senna time [08:43] hi sivang [08:43] Minardi are probably safe, they have their own engines they can run [08:43] Jordan are probably safe, they are rumoured to be running Toyota engines next year [08:43] fabbione : morning, how are you? :) [08:44] Jaguar are still in the shit though, no buyer yet [08:44] sivang: fine thank and you? [08:44] Keybuk: too bad... [08:44] fabbione: will be amusing, because Ferrari will have to run a third car if they drop out [08:44] i wonder when they will allow more than 2 cars x team [08:45] Keybuk: uh why? [08:45] it's not a matter of "allow", it'll be a requirement for the top teams [08:45] F1 rules state a minimum of 20 cars must run [08:45] ahhh [08:45] the third car won't be a points-scorer [08:45] so if you happen to be in the third Ferrari, you don't count [08:45] and what's the point of having a third car than? [08:45] just to fill up the grid? [08:45] fabbione : not bad at all, I see it's race car discussion day? :) [08:45] thaytan: you shrink you [08:45] it counts for the driver, not the teeam [08:45] bah. sorry [08:46] sivang: well yeah.. i don't have a tv yet in the new house [08:46] and Keybuk is updating me [08:46] though I think it'd be sweet if they let Jordan and Minardi have the third cars, and be points-scorers :) [08:46] Keybuk: understandable... will the team decide which cars will bring points to the team or they will pick the 2 highest score for each race? [08:47] 2 highest runners, I believe [08:47] fabbione : don't major sports channels broadcast on the internet as well? [08:47] though Brundle was being cynical and suggesting that a Ferrari 1, 2, 3 is the last thing the sport needs next year :o) [08:47] sivang: no, F1 isn't net-broadcast [08:48] Keybuk : this is an european exlusive sport channel I suppose? (I know Eurosport, ESPN for the states etc) === bigbrother0074 [~bigbrothe@cdm-24-250-145-26.bcst.cox-internet.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:48] sivang: F1 = FIA Formula 1 [08:49] Keybuk : Ah so that's the famous formula 1 races , those are better watched from within the audience ;) [08:49] Keybuk: ahahah that would own the F1.. Ferrari 1 2 3 :P [08:49] actually, I tend to disagree there ... they are fantastic to attend; but you get a better race if you watch at home [08:50] yeah [08:50] you don't see anything at the race [08:50] it gets too messy [08:50] it's way too much to go here [08:50] prices start at about $au450 or so [08:50] fabbione: not really likely though, Ferrari are notably mid-field at the moment -- all the other teams have caught up; even Schumy is notably off-pace [08:51] it's almost as if he's bored, he's made silly mistakes in the last several races [08:53] Keybuk: yeah well... he is demotivated after winning the championship [08:54] which is odd for Michael, he's normally even more motivated afterwards and just driving for fun [08:55] he is the "oldest man in F1" now ... though I give him a few more years yet, I expect we're starting to see the peak of his career [08:55] yeah i agree [08:56] still waiting to see who'll be in the 2nd Williams [08:56] and, if they have to, 3rd Ferrari and BAR [08:56] (I guess the latter will be Anthony Davidson) [08:57] probably Fittipaldi? [08:58] isn't he the test driver for Ferrari? [08:58] no idea [08:59] yay Webber [09:08] make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/xorg/xorg-lib-gl-6.8.1/build-tree/xc/lib/GL' [09:08] touch stampdir/build [09:08] YES [09:08] finally [09:09] daniels: isn't about time to sign my gpg keys? [09:09] fabbione: last time i asked daniels about signing your key, he said he wasn't sure that you really were 'Fabio, The Most Beautiful Man In The World' === vorlon vouches for fabbione's beauty [09:12] jdub: you didn't even want to exchange id's with me :( [09:12] vorlon: eheh [09:13] fabbione: we've already exchanged, haven't we? at the original uk meeting [09:13] jdub: only for one of my key [09:13] i am searching sigs for my new shiny 4096RSA key and the canonical key ;) [09:14] gpg --list-sigs fabbione@fabbione.net |grep Jeff [09:14] $ [09:15] so that means that even if we exachanged... you didn't sign [09:15] ;) [09:15] i didn't ;) [09:15] you suck :P === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:17] Morning [09:19] heh [09:20] yeah, i should probably sign keys from oxford ... and akademy ... and ols ... and lca ... [09:20] heh, i should probably sign keys from lca ... 2001 [09:21] aj: and debconf4 :-) [09:21] or was it 3? [09:21] the one in Olso.. [09:21] olso [09:22] OSLO [09:22] ok [09:23] 3 was oslo, 4 was brazil === Gmail [~Google@gnu-debian.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === KeyserSoze [unbound@pound.ifndef.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:01] daniels: is there actually any reason why we build libgl1.2 when 1.4 is available in debian? [10:01] usr/lib/libGL.so.1.4.500 libs/mesag3,libs/mesag3-glide2,libs/mesag3+ggi === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:04] fabbione: yeah -- mesa built independently from X is incapable of direct rendering [10:04] only software [10:05] working on using debian's mesa on a branch was what got me kicked out of the XSF the first time :P [10:05] in how many hr is the meeting? [10:05] i want to getready [10:06] but i think its in 8hrs [10:07] daniels: ok... and do you happen to remember why there is a /usr/lib/libGL link to /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL ? [10:07] probably because people suck and hardcoded the path === fabbione is extremely tempted to kill it === enrico_ [~enrico@81-174-12-206.f5.ngi.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:08] fabbione: just like the rest of /usr/X11R6 :) === Ferry [~Ferry@cust.15.118.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:10] daniels: eh the libgl1 stuff is complex [10:11] hm? [10:11] because libgl1 is a virtual package provided by several other packages [10:11] there is all a rationale behind it [10:11] it's in debian/changelog [10:11] yeah [10:11] that also means that i cannot call the package libgl1 [10:11] oh, right [10:11] and that seriously SUCKS HARD [10:11] so you're saying there's a /usr/lib/libGL->/usr/X11R6/lib/libgl link? [10:12] daniels: there is a link because that link is handled by different packages as far as i can see [10:12] so yes.. it needs to stay as symlink [10:12] /usr/lib/X11/libGL.so [10:12] hey, wait ... === fabbione is seriously disappointed by this GL mess [10:17] mmm [10:17] they're trying to fix that upstream, so mesa will be capable of direct rendering when built separately [10:17] daniels: i think i will keep the same name schema we have in Debian now.. even if i think it sucks [10:18] xlibmesa-* has nothing to do with libgl [10:18] but that's the easiest i think [10:19] i don't really like xlibmesa [10:19] i would personally prefer libgl1-xorg [10:20] or xorg-libgl1 [10:20] that is slightly more coherent with all the other packages [10:20] like 171 xorg-source-* [10:20] ;) [10:21] Package: xorg-libgl1 [10:21] Package: xorg-libgl-dev [10:21] Package: xorg-libgl-dri [10:21] ehm [10:22] libgl1-dri [10:22] mmm, but libgl1-* is far more compliant with standard naming scheme's [10:22] x's is total bong [10:22] (the xlib* mess being a bad hangover) [10:22] s/scheme's/schemes/ [10:23] also, libgl1-dri is bad because we're not actually dri [10:23] that's dri.sf.net [10:23] so i propose libgl1-xorg, but your call === ph_ [~ph@pD9E6BC38.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:25] let's keep it as xorg-libgl* [10:26] we can easily change it later [10:26] fabbione: hm [10:26] there is the same mess with xorg-libosmesa [10:26] fabbione: as i said, your call [10:26] daniels: as i said.. it's a detail right now [10:26] but in my packages, it's libgl1-xorg, libosmesa4-xorg, et al [10:26] yeah [10:26] we can change later ;) [10:26] we can fight it out in denmark :) [10:27] daniels: the ring is ready.. time for the cage :P [10:27] heh === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-8-176.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === __daniel [~daniel@td9091b68.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tuo2 [~foo@adsl-36-114.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:41] <__daniel> hai [10:46] 1,320 changesets for warty === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === daniels [daniel@fooishbar.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:01] daniels: can you gice me the output of objdump --all-headers libGL.so.1.2 | grep TEXTREL on your libGL ? [11:01] s/gice/give [11:01] and on libosmesa4 [11:01] hey sabdfl [11:02] fabbione: there should be no TEXTREL -- see my make libGL PIC-compliant patch [11:03] daniels: that's what i was searching for [11:03] i have no TEXTREL here [11:03] but yeah, I wrote a patch to make GL PIC-compliant [11:03] anyway, dinnertime [11:04] yeah it didn't apply clean.. i will check it again [11:04] i remember the first time i didn't do it deeply [11:05] jakub jelinek did a better one, might be applied now [11:05] that will make gl *significantly* *quicker* [11:05] anyway, dinner [11:05] hiya fabbione [11:06] mdz: d-i doesn't create /sbin/unconfigured.sh; that's a boot-floppies thing [11:07] mdz: instead, /etc/inittab is just set to run base-config until base-config rewrites it not to do that === cc [~byte@c211-28-119-102.eburwd3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione starts to wonder if do we really have to support GL [11:35] fabbione: that's the unfortunate reality [11:39] daniels: i rediffed your patch and now libGL is PIC compliant [11:39] cool [11:39] but libosmesa4 isn't [11:39] yeah, that probably still needs doing [11:39] and probably your version isn't linked properly either [11:40] the Imake is missing a REQUIREDLIBS = MathLibrary [11:40] i start to eat Imakefiles for breakfast [11:41] yeah, that's a patch from Gentoo I never got to integrating [11:41] their BTS has a few patches to practically eliminate all weak references [11:41] i was working on debrix at that stage, and couldn't be arsed dealing with Branden to get it into the Debian tree [11:43]