[12:09] Hi all [15:13] :RikMills hi rik, you around? [15:22] mmikowski: for now [15:23] Hey, nothing lengthy, i was just wondering if you were interested in porting some of the kubuntu focus tools upstream. No pressure, but there are some that might make a lot of sense. [15:23] Just thought I'd give you a bump before I got too far into my day. [15:24] Maybe a better way to consider is to join a video call and look through the stuff. Might be the fastest way to determine what you'd like. [15:25] mmikowski: I must admit I have not taken too close a look at what you have. I hate video calls, but I am sure we can work something out :) [15:25] Great work on the system, and just saw another big upgrade today. KDE is really starting to settle down it appears. [15:26] mmikowski: I also have frameworks 5.95 and plasma 5.25 (embargoed tars) building ;) [15:26] I think the value of a video call isn't in seeing each other - honestly, I don't need that either - but in screen sharing the tools and responding immediately to question or interest. So "Screen Share Call" might be the best way to put it. [15:26] currently [15:26] Ooh, that's great! [15:27] here are some of the kubuntu focus tools. On the focus, you can click any icon to launch the app through a mime-handler. [15:27] https://kfocus.org/wf/tools [15:28] We do lots of other stuff like make slack web links work, and of course hardware integration, but these seem like low hanging fruit. [15:28] some of those look interesting :D [15:29] So don't worry about, just wanted to plant a seed. If you want to return to it at some time, just let me know. [15:29] ok, I am not likely to get far on it in the next week. feel free to ping if it looks like I have forgotten [15:30] I do want to set up a VM with ficus sometime to see what is what. just keeps getting bumped down the list [15:30] *focus [15:30] Thanks! One that is sill but solves a frequent problem for our ML customers, is the C stack switcher. Days of research into that (and many weeks and even months in others). It saves ML guys days of doing it badly. [15:31] Ah, no worries Rik. Again, I really appreciate all the hard work you do the the distro, and would like contribute back too. [15:32] I suspect the c stack switcher is probably more reverent to your userbase than the general kubuntu one, but hey, may be good for all [15:32] kk, so I'll pester you in around a week if I haven't hear from you :) [15:33] please do. I just have too many balls in the air this weekend [15:33] The vidsync is another good one. Again, completely solves a common problem correctly and in a packaged way. [15:33] And, like all of these, once we improve them, they get upgraded seamlessly. [15:34] :D [15:34] The mime handler is also a nice one, although not listed directly here. It will add repo + install + open on a click if needed. [15:35] Wimpress is doing this on CLI very well recently and got some good press for it; we've been doing it for over 2 years now, and we've offered to provide the UI to the project. [15:35] sorry, GUI :P [15:36] We also contribute to get-deb which is their project. [15:36] kk, I'll let you get back to life and I'll add a reminder in my calendar to give you a bump. [15:37] this sort of thing has slipped in kubuntu in recent years. custom tools to add value getting removed due to bitrot with no-one able to maintain [15:37] a fresh look on this would be great [15:38] ok, and thanks. this looks promising :) [15:39] We've got a really good package and dev infrastructure in place now, with automated regression tests on a nice common lib. It's all GPL 2, and we expect to soon have a public repo. Of course, our ppa is already public. [15:40] Great Rik. Here's a quick intro to the mime-handler stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Zfv29cLrE [15:47] RikMills: How come 5.25 is only for Jammy in https://launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/plasma/+packages ? (Not trying to ask you to do extra work, just curious.) [15:48] mamarley: because the kinetic build is in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4864/+packages [15:48] Ah, figured it was something like that, thanks! [15:48] to land straight to the archive on Tuesday [15:49] (Got to have the latest software crack. ;) ) [15:49] indeed! [15:50] I've been running the 5.25 beta with Wayland ever since it was released. This is the first time I've done that for more than a couple of days without finding some reason to switch back to X. But this is really nice. [15:50] kool! [16:38] Yay, they fixed the missing clock in the lock screen! [17:20] Hmm, something in this is causing some menus that come off the panels (kickoff, calendar, etc.) to bump any windows in the way out of the way. Annoying… [21:51] mamarley: not seen that so far [21:52] It's only on Wayland. [21:53] And it is caused by https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/plasma-framework/-/commit/d0c9c659db4b35f98b7d9a3b2f8afb9fe5d73f34. [21:53] Commit d0c9c65 in frameworks/plasma-framework "Do not send all windows below the dialog when window type is AppletPopup" [21:58] is this reported as a bug? [21:58] I reported it, but in the wrong application. I need to go fix that now… [21:59] RikMills: Do you know anything about events propogating improperly on QML widgets (Plasma Optimus is the issue here). I found that script-exit events that used to fire there no longer do, which results in the widget never getting the GPU name. [22:00] RikMills: I'm looking at an alternate execution path, but if you said something like 'No worries mate, its a known bug, and fix is in', that would make my day :) [22:00] mmikowski: not right now, especially as it is 11PM here on a Friday night and I have had a few beers ;) [22:01] mamarley: great. thanks [22:02] RikMills: Thanks Rik. [22:02] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455138 [22:02] KDE bug 455138 in frameworks-plasma "Certain menus extending from panel (application launcher, calendar, network list, etc.) bump other windows out of the way" [Normal, Unconfirmed] [22:03] mamarley: cheers. I may DM nate [22:04] Thanks! [22:07] If a revert commit (or fix) does not get into 5.95, I may think about doing that in packaging tomorrow [22:07] The hardest part of tracking that one down was figuring out which package it was in. As soon as I knew which repository to look at, the commit looked fishy right away. [22:08] indeed it does [22:09] plasma-framework being in fw is still weird choice