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[03:23] <user|13> Hello - I'm trying to download an older version (20.04.3) of Kubuntu, but all the links redirect to 20.04.4.
[03:23] <user|13> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/
[03:28] <arraybolt3[m]> user|13: Sadly, while I can find Ubuntu 20.04.3, I can't find Kubuntu 20.04.3. Is there a particular reason you need the older stack (cybersecurity testing)?
[03:30] <user|13> Yes, that and compatibility with third-party drivers.
[03:31] <arraybolt3[m]> user|13: If you can live without the KDE desktop, you may be able to use Ubuntu 20.04.3, which I can link to. If KDE is required, there might be another solution, which I'll try to help figure out.
[03:32] <user|13> KDE would be preferred, if possible.
[03:34] <arraybolt3[m]> OK. My first idea is to install Ubuntu Server 20.04.3, then install kubuntu-desktop on top of that, however that's likely to pull in a ton of updates, which kinda defeats the point. I'm trying to see if there's a way to force the use of the old version.
[03:37] <arraybolt3[m]> user|13: Shoot, I can't seem to find a way to avoid updating the whole system when pulling in KDE.
[03:37] <user|13> That might work, but having a clean image would be ideal. Any idea why the releases between 20.04 and 20.04.3 have been removed from the repo?
[03:38] <arraybolt3[m]> user|13: Probably for security. Most people need to use the most updated software in order to keep from getting hacked. But as someone doing cybersecurity, you want something that's hackable, and AFAICT, Canonical intentionally makes it tricky to make yourself hackable so that you don't get hacked by accident, which also throws a wrench in the works for those who want to get hacked on purpose.
[03:40] <arraybolt3[m]> This post has info on why they removed them: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1298239/all-kubuntu-releases (I wouldn't trust the link given for where to find all the releases, since it's an untrusted third party and may have far worse problems than just being out of date.)
[03:41] <user|13> Ack
[03:41] <arraybolt3[m]> user|13: Would Kubuntu 18.04 be sufficient for your use case? Un-updated and out of the box, that's likely to be insecure enough, and it will come with KDE.
[03:41] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> My tuch screen is not working
[03:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Argh, come to think of it, they probably will only have the latest point releases for that, too...
[03:43] <user|13> Yeah, I was thinking the same.
[03:44] <arraybolt3[m]> user|13: I have an idea.
[03:44] <arraybolt3[m]> user|13: Try using an EOL Ubuntu Server non-LTS release and installing kubuntu-desktop on that.
[03:45] <arraybolt3[m]> user|13: https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/21.04/
[03:45] <arraybolt3[m]> Or if you need pre-20.04:
[03:45] <arraybolt3[m]> user|13: https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/19.10/
[03:46] <arraybolt3[m]> Once kubuntu-desktop is installed, you should be able to install your nVidia drivers. You may have to tweak your sources.list file so you can access software (like nVidia drivers or whatever).
[03:47] <arraybolt3[m]> (Or whatever drivers you need - I'm used to "third-party driver = nVidia", but WiFi drivers should also be there... you get what I'm trying to say.)
[03:47] <user|13> Roger that. I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the assistance!
[03:48] <arraybolt3[m]> user|13: No problem. I'd give you a warning about EOL software, but as a CSec person, you probably don't need that, LOL.
[03:50] <user|13> loll
[03:51] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: What brand and model of computer are you using? Something like "Dell Inspiron 7000" is what I'm looking for.
[03:53] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> Dell latitude 5480 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: What brand and model of computer are you using? Something like "Dell Inspiron 7000" is what I'm looking for.)
[03:54] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> Can I turn it on from system sit or something?
[03:55] <user|13> LOL - If were still at my previous employer, then it would have definitely been a Dell. I'm on a Lenovo X1
[03:58] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: I don't think so, you're probably missing a driver or something. Let me look up that system and see what I can find
[03:59] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> Ok (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: I don't think so, you're probably missing a driver or something. Let me look up that system and see what I can find)
[04:03] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: Hmm. Can you run "xinput | nc termbin.com 9999" and send the link it spits out? This will let me see if the touchscreen is being detected or not.
[04:03] <arraybolt3[m]> (That command should be run in a terminal, which you can open with Ctrl+Alt+T.)
[04:05] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> https://termbin.com/8ftm
[04:06] <oerheks> https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/20.04.3/
[04:06] <oerheks> oh he is gone
[04:06] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: Aha! It is detecting your touchscreen. Maybe try mapping it to your monitor. I'm going to find the command to do that.
[04:06] <arraybolt3[m]> oerheks: He needed Kubuntu 20.04.3, not Ubuntu, sadly.
[04:08] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: Can you run "xrandr | nc termbin.com 9999" and send me that link? This will tell me the ID of your monitor.
[04:09] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> https://termbin.com/dku3
[04:10] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: OK, try this command: "xinput --map-to-output 'Melfas LGDisplay Incell Touch' eDP-1"
[04:10] <arraybolt3[m]> (The single quotes around the touchscreen name are important.)
[04:11] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> done
[04:12] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: And? Does your touchscreen do stuff now?
[04:12] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> it is working
[04:12] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: Nice. Last step is probably to make that command run on every boot. Let me find a good solution for that.
[04:13] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> ok
[04:15] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: OK, run "nano .profile"
[04:15] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: This will open a text editor, carefully type the xinput command from earlier on its own line at the very end of the file.
[04:16] <arraybolt3[m]> When that's done, press Ctrl+S to save, Ctrl+X to exit, then reboot and see if your touchscreen is working out of the box.
[04:16] <arraybolt3[m]> (Or... whatever, not out of the box, but you get my point. Man, I phrase stuff bad a lot.)
[04:17] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> lol
[04:17] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> ok man
[04:17] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍️
[04:18] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> what to write after this (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: OK, run "nano .profile")
[04:18] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> haa (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: This will open a text editor, carefully type the xinput command from earlier on its own line at the very end of the file.)
[04:18] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: xinput --map-to-output 'Melfas LGDisplay Incell Touch' eDP-1
[04:19] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> ok
[04:21] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> It is working
[04:21] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> Thanks you are the best
[04:21] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: Fantastic!
[04:21] <arraybolt3[m]> Oov: Thanks for coming here!
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[05:42] <IrcsomeBot> <parkour_29> is there any way to make task bar transparent on kubuntu?
[06:10] <IrcsomeBot> <SharGen19> Guys my laptop shutdown suddenly when reaches 50 percent! I think battery isnt calibration? How can i fix it?
[10:48] <IrcsomeBot> <El_Miki_22> Hi, I've just installed Kubuntu and I get a strmge problem with samba, it's not posible to come into the folders, always get the same trobule,
[10:49] <IrcsomeBot> <El_Miki_22> I don't have any access to folder
[10:49] <IrcsomeBot> <El_Miki_22> I'm ussing the same cfg file, with my other linux and there will be ok
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:26] <Dragnslcr> So now that it looks like Google has completely killed off Jabber connections for Chat, are there are any KDE programs that can connect to Google Chat?
[13:16] <floown> Hello. Installing a snap on KDE neon, and so on in Kubuntu, does'nt create a menu entry in Kickoff, or I do somethings wrong? Thanks.
[15:03] <floown> Hi! Which tool to search and find a file or set of files on various partitions in one step?
[15:09] <floown> Ok, Kfind do the job well
[19:23] <R13ose> When I try to open browser links to applications the link is not opening the application or doing anything.  Did I change settings that I need to revert?
[19:30] <mmikowski_> R13ose: What is the link? Can you paste the address here?
[19:32] <R13ose> I'm trying to open Zoom links.  So I will click the link and then it will popup a box that allows me to open the link in the Zoom application but when I click that, this doesn't nothing.
[19:44] <oerheks> zoom plugin in your browser?
[19:50] <R13ose> I don't use any zoom plugin in my browser
[19:51] <oerheks> now it does not work..
[19:52] <oerheks> zoom can do perfect browser crashes too
[19:53] <R13ose> Wonderful
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[20:32] <mmikowski_> R13ose: Zoom can work with the browser fine.  We did integration work for the Kubuntu Focus.
[20:33] <R13ose> My last zoom meeting was done in the browser but want to make the application work again too.
[20:33] <mmikowski_> My first guess is you need to upgrade the zoom that you have installed. It does NOT upgrade automatically, and the older version had a broken electron container shortcut.
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[20:35] <mmikowski> Let me check, but that alone should fix it; just download the zoom package from the site and install it again.
[20:39] <mmikowski> R13ose: Confirmed. The Kfocus team used to provide a wrapper for Zoom to fix the issue, but that is no longer needed and just updating shoud fix it.
[20:40] <R13ose> mmikowski: which Zoom version would I need to be at?
[20:44] <mmikowski> Mine show 5.10.7.3311, and that works. Whatever is the latest from their site should be the same or greater than that.  Zoom Ubuntu Linux support is actually quite good, although it would be nice to see it auto-upgrade through a repo. We'll add that if it comes available.
[20:44] <mmikowski> We = Kubuntu Focus team :) Zoom is not officially supported by Kubuntu for obvious reasons.
[20:46] <R13ose> mmikowski: My Zoom version is at 5.11.0 (3540) which I download from the Zoom website whenever check my update says there's a new update.
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> R13ose: Which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> !yy.mm
[20:49] <ubottu> Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[20:50] <R13ose> Eickmeyer: 22.04
[20:50] <Eickmeyer> Ok, just checking.
[20:51] <Eickmeyer> Also, FYI: Third-party apps from outside of the repository are not supported here, so you may need to seek support from Zoom, R13ose.
[20:55] <R13ose> Eickmeyer: totally understand.  This is a totally Zoom issue and not an overall I did something wrong with Kubuntu or all applications are broken when opening links from browsers?
[20:55] <Eickmeyer> R13ose: A reinstall of Zoom could go a long way to fixing the link association issue.
[20:56] <mmikowski> R13ose: So that should be good. You may want to look at file associations and make sure x-zoom is there. And yes, you will want try other link types.
[20:57] <R13ose> Eickmeyer: as a last resort, I will do that.
[20:58] <Eickmeyer> R13ose: To be honest, it's really safe as there are basically no settings that will get overwritten by doing that, aside from fixing the file/link associations. I'd do that first.
[20:58] <enigma9o7[m]> try reinstalling as a last resort?
[20:58] <R13ose> Yep
[20:58] <enigma9o7[m]> thats one of the easiest things to try, but unlikely to do anything anyway.
[20:58] <R13ose> I will do that now :)
[20:59] <R13ose> mmikowski: I looked into x-zoom and that's there.  Which file/link association would be do the same to test?
[21:00] <Eickmeyer> R13ose: Best thing to do is reinstall Zoom to get the file/link associations back. It's hard to say what got it messed up.
[21:00] <Eickmeyer> It's safe to try.
[21:06] <R13ose> I uninstalled and reinstalled and still browsers are not pointing to that.
[21:13] <Eickmeyer> R13ose: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1410174/how-to-open-zoom-meeting-link-in-firefox-in-ubuntu-22-04
[21:15] <R13ose> Thanks Eickmeyer
[21:19] <R13ose> Eickmeyer: to let you know, this happened in another browser.
[21:20] <Eickmeyer> R13ose: Yeah, no idea then.
[21:20] <R13ose> I'm talking to Zoom now :)  Thanks everyone for your help.
[21:34] <R13ose> The issue for the other browser was that I needed to close and re-open for some reason.  I will see what they say about Firefox.
[21:44] <R13ose> With Firefox seems to be a wide issue that is already posted multiple places so I will let others figure that out as I don't use Firefox that often.
[21:50] <cbreak> the new snap firefox is a pain in the ass with interoperability
[21:51] <enigma9o7[m]> ya it seems there certainly wasnt enough testing before forcing it upon everyone
[21:53] <oerheks> firefox was a snap in 21.10 too?
[21:54] <oerheks> and all zoom users and forumposts point to the use of the official zoom plugin for your browser.
[21:57] <enigma9o7[m]> I think with 21.10 it started out as deb package, and then at some point new installs starting trying the snap
[23:04] <cbreak> oerheks: no
[23:04] <cbreak> I had native firefox in 21.10
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[23:35] <luis_> Heloo heloo
[23:35] <arraybolt3[m]> luis_: Hello, and how can we help you?
[23:36] <luis_> i am trying to bypass ipad 2nd gen's activation lock using linx since its the only way that works on ios 9, im on kubuntu with TDE installed as its desktop environment
[23:37] <luis_> but it wont load up
[23:37] <oerheks> byassing ipads locks is not the scope of this channel.
[23:37] <arraybolt3[m]> luis_: Hmm. Sadly, I don't think this is a Kubuntu support question, since it's a problem with iOS, not Kubuntu in particular. You might have luck on the r/jailbreak subreddit.
[23:37] <arraybolt3[m]> (If that's what you're trying to do.)
[23:37] <enigma9o7[m]> Is it kubuntu that wont load up?
[23:38] <enigma9o7[m]> or what is "it"?
[23:38] <oerheks> we cannot tell you are the genuine owner, good luck dude.
[23:38] <arraybolt3[m]> (I don't actually know what an ipad activation lock is.)
[23:38] <oerheks> some got linux running on an ipad recently, but that is also offtopic.
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[23:53] <luis_> welp guys i think thats gonna wrap it up. my ipad just bricked and had smoke coming out of it for a while but it stopped
[23:53] <luis_> so yea thats the end of the ipad and  i am going to dispose of it and probably buy a 1st gen instead /:
[23:54] <luis_> god damn it