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There is a difference between self censorship and government censorship of a political opinion. I don't like Le Pen, but using an anti expression law to get rid of political dissent doesn't seem very liberal.
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There is a difference between self censorship and government censorship of a political opinion. I don't like Le Pen, but using an anti expression law to get rid of political dissent doesn't seem very liberal.
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Does anyone believe Macron isn't the status quo? He's your bog standard, know what you'll get, left of centre politician. He's the "safe" choice not the "radical" choice. I haven't seen anyone saying otherwise.
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Does anyone believe Macron isn't the status quo? He's your bog standard, know what you'll get, left of centre politician. He's the "safe" choice not the "radical" choice. I haven't seen anyone saying otherwise.
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Does anyone believe Macron isn't the status quo? He's your bog standard, know what you'll get, left of centre politician. He's the "safe" choice not the "radical" choice. I haven't seen anyone saying otherwise.
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Please note that polls are comfortably paid by the same who have an interest in seing Macron win (90 of media is owned by billionaires in France).
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Please note that polls are comfortably paid by the same who have an interest in seing Macron win (90 of media is owned by billionaires in France).
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Please note that polls are comfortably paid by the same who have an interest in seing Macron win (90 of media is owned by billionaires in France).
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It's quite a difference, considering it was an exit poll. If Macron doesn't screw things up and actually tries to rally Mélenchon supporters, he can end up with a really big share of the vote. 36% would mean most wouldn't even consider him.
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It's quite a difference, considering it was an exit poll. If Macron doesn't screw things up and actually tries to rally Mélenchon supporters, he can end up with a really big share of the vote. 36% would mean most wouldn't even consider him.
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It's quite a difference, considering it was an exit poll. If Macron doesn't screw things up and actually tries to rally Mélenchon supporters, he can end up with a really big share of the vote. 36% would mean most wouldn't even consider him.
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Fillon was [advocating for maximum immigration quotas](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-fillon-immigration-idUSKBN14V0TN) for non-EU nationals. Bad for Macron, though...
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Fillon was [advocating for maximum immigration quotas](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-fillon-immigration-idUSKBN14V0TN) for non-EU nationals. Bad for Macron, though...
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Fillon was [advocating for maximum immigration quotas](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-fillon-immigration-idUSKBN14V0TN) for non-EU nationals. Bad for Macron, though...
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The idea of a four-way Fillon/Melechon/Macron/Le Pen first round is honestly bugfuck terrifying to me rn
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The idea of a four-way Fillon/Melechon/Macron/Le Pen first round is honestly bugfuck terrifying to me rn
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The idea of a four-way Fillon/Melechon/Macron/Le Pen first round is honestly bugfuck terrifying to me rn
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We should go expansionary to take advantage of the meme potential of Macron crushing Trump's hand
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We should go expansionary to take advantage of the meme potential of Macron crushing Trump's hand
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We should go expansionary to take advantage of the meme potential of Macron crushing Trump's hand
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I'm saying between a fascist (Le Pen) and a democratic candidate there can't be no doubt, unless you're not pro-democracy yourself. There's no neutrality possible in this situation. Anyway their support or lack of is in practice indifferent to the election, but it's extremely clarifying of their own essence. Anyway, we're talking about the party that would bring "change" to Spanish politics and ended up assuring that Mariano Rajoy could remain president of gov even without a majority...
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I'm saying between a fascist (Le Pen) and a democratic candidate there can't be no doubt, unless you're not pro-democracy yourself. There's no neutrality possible in this situation. Anyway their support or lack of is in practice indifferent to the election, but it's extremely clarifying of their own essence. Anyway, we're talking about the party that would bring "change" to Spanish politics and ended up assuring that Mariano Rajoy could remain president of gov even without a majority...
europe
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Care,Loyalty,Authority,Proportionality
Confident
I'm saying between a fascist (Le Pen) and a democratic candidate there can't be no doubt, unless you're not pro-democracy yourself. There's no neutrality possible in this situation. Anyway their support or lack of is in practice indifferent to the election, but it's extremely clarifying of their own essence. Anyway, we're talking about the party that would bring "change" to Spanish politics and ended up assuring that Mariano Rajoy could remain president of gov even without a majority...
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The point is that Hollande can screw them if he wants to. He can stop giving them interviews, he probably has some sort of option to exclude them from press events, etc. But he didnt. This isnt about legal tools or taking legal steps. Its about cooperating actively with somebody that mocks you. Politicians can and do in fact refuse to do that, but Hollande appareantly didnt.
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The point is that Hollande can screw them if he wants to. He can stop giving them interviews, he probably has some sort of option to exclude them from press events, etc. But he didnt. This isnt about legal tools or taking legal steps. Its about cooperating actively with somebody that mocks you. Politicians can and do in fact refuse to do that, but Hollande appareantly didnt.
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The point is that Hollande can screw them if he wants to. He can stop giving them interviews, he probably has some sort of option to exclude them from press events, etc. But he didnt. This isnt about legal tools or taking legal steps. Its about cooperating actively with somebody that mocks you. Politicians can and do in fact refuse to do that, but Hollande appareantly didnt.
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Why blaming macron ? Nothing bad on those documents so far and everyone can be victim of hackers.
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Why blaming macron ? Nothing bad on those documents so far and everyone can be victim of hackers.
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Proportionality
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Why blaming macron ? Nothing bad on those documents so far and everyone can be victim of hackers.
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Thin Morality
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Question: are the people of France surprised by Le Pen making it this far?
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Question: are the people of France surprised by Le Pen making it this far?
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Question: are the people of France surprised by Le Pen making it this far?
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Non-Moral
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Hillary - Trump were 2-3 points off from each other. Macron - Le Pen are 26 points apart.
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Hillary - Trump were 2-3 points off from each other. Macron - Le Pen are 26 points apart.
europe
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Hillary - Trump were 2-3 points off from each other. Macron - Le Pen are 26 points apart.
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Will Macron spank me if I am on the shit list?
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Will Macron spank me if I am on the shit list?
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Will Macron spank me if I am on the shit list?
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That's not what I said. I said Trump tactics arent as effective here. Also, Le Pen voters dont exactly identify as Truml voters, we arent thinking about the US as much.
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That's not what I said. I said Trump tactics arent as effective here. Also, Le Pen voters dont exactly identify as Truml voters, we arent thinking about the US as much.
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That's not what I said. I said Trump tactics arent as effective here. Also, Le Pen voters dont exactly identify as Truml voters, we arent thinking about the US as much.
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This, but with Macron and Trudeau, is the romantic comedy neoliberals want.
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This, but with Macron and Trudeau, is the romantic comedy neoliberals want.
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This, but with Macron and Trudeau, is the romantic comedy neoliberals want.
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Non-Moral
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Le Pen is economically a national-liberal-capitalist and her program reflects that.
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Non-Moral
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Le Pen is economically a national-liberal-capitalist and her program reflects that.
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Le Pen is economically a national-liberal-capitalist and her program reflects that.
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We aren't a partisan sub. Fillon was sort of alright and many of us like Jeb!, as well a number of other people who could be classified as right-leaning.
neoliberal
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We aren't a partisan sub. Fillon was sort of alright and many of us like Jeb!, as well a number of other people who could be classified as right-leaning.
neoliberal
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We aren't a partisan sub. Fillon was sort of alright and many of us like Jeb!, as well a number of other people who could be classified as right-leaning.
neoliberal
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Non-Moral
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Lead with Macron, just to dive into Romanian politics. That's the kind of clickbait I'm okay with.
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Lead with Macron, just to dive into Romanian politics. That's the kind of clickbait I'm okay with.
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Non-Moral
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Lead with Macron, just to dive into Romanian politics. That's the kind of clickbait I'm okay with.
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The way you presented your data made it seem Clinton's lead was just that small the whole time, but actually it is not. Take these 2 dates for example. [October 30: Clinton 15 point lead](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/us-election-hillary-clinton-poll-lead-early-voters-donald-trump-a7387341.html) [November 7: Clinton 5 point lead](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/election-polls-latest-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-who-is-leading-winning-ahead-a7402866.html) Look the point I am making is not that Le Pen's probability to win is like Trump's. It's that OP's question is *assuming* Le Pen will indeed win (a conditional probability), what will happen? Refusing to answer the question because you question the given assumption is really not a good answer to OP's question.
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The way you presented your data made it seem Clinton's lead was just that small the whole time, but actually it is not. Take these 2 dates for example. [October 30: Clinton 15 point lead](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/us-election-hillary-clinton-poll-lead-early-voters-donald-trump-a7387341.html) [November 7: Clinton 5 point lead](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/election-polls-latest-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-who-is-leading-winning-ahead-a7402866.html) Look the point I am making is not that Le Pen's probability to win is like Trump's. It's that OP's question is *assuming* Le Pen will indeed win (a conditional probability), what will happen? Refusing to answer the question because you question the given assumption is really not a good answer to OP's question.
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The way you presented your data made it seem Clinton's lead was just that small the whole time, but actually it is not. Take these 2 dates for example. [October 30: Clinton 15 point lead](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/us-election-hillary-clinton-poll-lead-early-voters-donald-trump-a7387341.html) [November 7: Clinton 5 point lead](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/election-polls-latest-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-who-is-leading-winning-ahead-a7402866.html) Look the point I am making is not that Le Pen's probability to win is like Trump's. It's that OP's question is *assuming* Le Pen will indeed win (a conditional probability), what will happen? Refusing to answer the question because you question the given assumption is really not a good answer to OP's question.
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Macron -bourgeois filth Harmon - bourgeois filth Melenchon - communist truth Fillon- bourgeois filth Le Pen - fascist filth
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Macron -bourgeois filth Harmon - bourgeois filth Melenchon - communist truth Fillon- bourgeois filth Le Pen - fascist filth
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Macron -bourgeois filth Harmon - bourgeois filth Melenchon - communist truth Fillon- bourgeois filth Le Pen - fascist filth
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Can you describe where Mélenchon falls on the spectrum vs Hollande? Were people justified in considering him significantly further left (to the point of nutcasery)?
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Can you describe where Mélenchon falls on the spectrum vs Hollande? Were people justified in considering him significantly further left (to the point of nutcasery)?
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Can you describe where Mélenchon falls on the spectrum vs Hollande? Were people justified in considering him significantly further left (to the point of nutcasery)?
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> > > > > By calling attacks imponderable, Macron shows that he isn't committed to facing some harsh truths involved with fighting terror. You seem to be the one not facing harsh truths if you think we can just stop terrorist attacs now. No matter who is in charge and what they do there is no way they can promise to completely stop terror.
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> > > > > By calling attacks imponderable, Macron shows that he isn't committed to facing some harsh truths involved with fighting terror. You seem to be the one not facing harsh truths if you think we can just stop terrorist attacs now. No matter who is in charge and what they do there is no way they can promise to completely stop terror.
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> > > > > By calling attacks imponderable, Macron shows that he isn't committed to facing some harsh truths involved with fighting terror. You seem to be the one not facing harsh truths if you think we can just stop terrorist attacs now. No matter who is in charge and what they do there is no way they can promise to completely stop terror.
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Seriously. I'm a pretty left person, but Melenchon is too extreme for me.
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Seriously. I'm a pretty left person, but Melenchon is too extreme for me.
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Seriously. I'm a pretty left person, but Melenchon is too extreme for me.
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Non-Moral
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For y'all foreigners calling this historic : it isn't. It's the same old second round, UMP/PS (here Macron is both leftish and rightish) vs Front National. The history here will be imo that for once they'll win. :/
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For y'all foreigners calling this historic : it isn't. It's the same old second round, UMP/PS (here Macron is both leftish and rightish) vs Front National. The history here will be imo that for once they'll win. :/
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For y'all foreigners calling this historic : it isn't. It's the same old second round, UMP/PS (here Macron is both leftish and rightish) vs Front National. The history here will be imo that for once they'll win. :/
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My comparison was more akin to Fillon v Melenchon. By right winger I don't mean actual nazis. Obv socialist > nazi
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My comparison was more akin to Fillon v Melenchon. By right winger I don't mean actual nazis. Obv socialist > nazi
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My comparison was more akin to Fillon v Melenchon. By right winger I don't mean actual nazis. Obv socialist > nazi
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Non-Moral
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Melenchon wants to renegotiate the deals with the EU because it'd be really hard for him to fulfill an anti-austerity program any other way. If your ideology is that of the status quo, that is fine: say that you disagree with him and that's it, but calling him dogmatic without knowing how many leftist tendencies are putting their differences aside to make this project possible will only show your ignorance.
europe
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Melenchon wants to renegotiate the deals with the EU because it'd be really hard for him to fulfill an anti-austerity program any other way. If your ideology is that of the status quo, that is fine: say that you disagree with him and that's it, but calling him dogmatic without knowing how many leftist tendencies are putting their differences aside to make this project possible will only show your ignorance.
europe
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Melenchon wants to renegotiate the deals with the EU because it'd be really hard for him to fulfill an anti-austerity program any other way. If your ideology is that of the status quo, that is fine: say that you disagree with him and that's it, but calling him dogmatic without knowing how many leftist tendencies are putting their differences aside to make this project possible will only show your ignorance.
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If that program is a thing, that is good. Although Le Pen shouldn't be interfering in gay marriage.
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Equality
Somewhat Confident
If that program is a thing, that is good. Although Le Pen shouldn't be interfering in gay marriage.
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annotator04
Equality
Confident
If that program is a thing, that is good. Although Le Pen shouldn't be interfering in gay marriage.
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Thin Morality
Not Confident
Macron is a crypto PS candidate and he seems to be doing well.
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Macron is a crypto PS candidate and he seems to be doing well.
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Macron is a crypto PS candidate and he seems to be doing well.
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I'm chinese, don't know why i feel so happy for Macron.
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I'm chinese, don't know why i feel so happy for Macron.
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Non-Moral
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I'm chinese, don't know why i feel so happy for Macron.
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Non-Moral
Confident
Le Pen is polling higher than any other conservative (25% of the total population). Trump won the Republican Primary. Wilders was the leading conservative candidate in the Netherlands. Are we really going to pretend it's just a small group of outliers among conservatives who are embracing the far-right?
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Le Pen is polling higher than any other conservative (25% of the total population). Trump won the Republican Primary. Wilders was the leading conservative candidate in the Netherlands. Are we really going to pretend it's just a small group of outliers among conservatives who are embracing the far-right?
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Le Pen is polling higher than any other conservative (25% of the total population). Trump won the Republican Primary. Wilders was the leading conservative candidate in the Netherlands. Are we really going to pretend it's just a small group of outliers among conservatives who are embracing the far-right?
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>From a party created by ex SS Proof? Source? That's an outright lie. >Try it, a lot of videos of Le Pen in Neo Nazi rallies. You're the one making the claim that she supports Neo-Nazis. I'm not going to waste my time watching an old rally, so link me some direct proof if it's as easy as you claim. >Protectionist + racial rethoric, what's nationalism if it's not? Nationalism is the love for one's country, putting their country's interests first above those of other countries, not some racist rhetoric.
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>From a party created by ex SS Proof? Source? That's an outright lie. >Try it, a lot of videos of Le Pen in Neo Nazi rallies. You're the one making the claim that she supports Neo-Nazis. I'm not going to waste my time watching an old rally, so link me some direct proof if it's as easy as you claim. >Protectionist + racial rethoric, what's nationalism if it's not? Nationalism is the love for one's country, putting their country's interests first above those of other countries, not some racist rhetoric.
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>From a party created by ex SS Proof? Source? That's an outright lie. >Try it, a lot of videos of Le Pen in Neo Nazi rallies. You're the one making the claim that she supports Neo-Nazis. I'm not going to waste my time watching an old rally, so link me some direct proof if it's as easy as you claim. >Protectionist + racial rethoric, what's nationalism if it's not? Nationalism is the love for one's country, putting their country's interests first above those of other countries, not some racist rhetoric.
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I'm hoping this changes - it didn't effect Macron so maybe we can normalize this type of thinking.
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I'm hoping this changes - it didn't effect Macron so maybe we can normalize this type of thinking.
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I'm hoping this changes - it didn't effect Macron so maybe we can normalize this type of thinking.
neoliberal
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Non-Moral
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Le Pen and the chains backing her want to shake powers while thinking there would be no retaliation. Fascists, Dictators and wannabes have tendency to think they are only the smart ones and can play everybody as fools.
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Authority
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Le Pen and the chains backing her want to shake powers while thinking there would be no retaliation. Fascists, Dictators and wannabes have tendency to think they are only the smart ones and can play everybody as fools.
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Thin Morality
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Le Pen and the chains backing her want to shake powers while thinking there would be no retaliation. Fascists, Dictators and wannabes have tendency to think they are only the smart ones and can play everybody as fools.
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Non-Moral
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Fillon would never become PM again. If he doesn't become President, he'll probably put an end his career.
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Fillon would never become PM again. If he doesn't become President, he'll probably put an end his career.
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